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live.com... cactus.com?

I've really tried to resist bagging this big announcement from microsoft. but i've also made the mistake of trying to use live.com

Your online world gets better when everything works simply and effortlessly together.

Pity that the 'out of the box' experience (1) didn't work, (2) wasn't simple (3) wasn't effortless and (4) lacked 'togetherness'.

I clicked all the bits that looked clickable, watched as things changed. One box said: "You can see your Windows Live Mail or Hotmail inbox here if you sign in."

Hmmm. I was already signed in... my name was displayed in the top right, proof positive that my sign-in was successful. But no email showed up. Five minutes of digging showed me that what they meant to say was:
"You can see your Windows Live Mail or Hotmail inbox here if you sign in *AND* you've joined the beta program, for which we send you to a page from which you have to hunt around before going to another page... and even then you'd better have hotmail because we don't accept anyone else."

But of course the real test of an aggregator is: Does it successfully aggregate secretGeek.net/rss.asp??... the answer a resounding NO!

windows live telling me my feed is bad, and me swearing at it in response.

The reason i use swear words (sorry about that., by the way... I went all blythopathic for a moment) is that they imply that my feed is bad. Not true (this time). This time, I'm pretty sure the mistake is on live.com's side. And there's no hint given about what's wrong. Damn them.

Anyway, I might like live.com if:

  1. They let me use google as my search. (Instead i feel like they are trying to grab the web in a strangle hold)
  2. Their aggregator worked for secretGeek.net/rss.asp and every other page I tried
  3. I could plug in to my gmail account. And have it refresh on demand.
  4. I could plug into del.icio.us, rather than re-invent it from scratch
  5. It had a simple todo list functionality a-la Ta-Da
  6. It had something as addictive as LiveMarks or Digg Spy

Anyway... here's some other web portals around the place you might be interested in...

  • Start.com Fore-runner to Live.com
  • Google Personalised The Web 1.0 way of doing integrated portals ;-)
  • Net Vibes The Coolest one of these I've seen yet
  • Protopage More Javascript, very pop-up... technically amazing, but not so fun to use.
  • Omar Al Zabir Portal AMAZING ajax Portal written in the year 2000 !!!!
  • My Yahoo The Web 1.0 way of doing integrated portals ;-)
  • Alfy The web portal for kids -- i don't know what this is, but I like it :-)
  • Kudos to the people who worked on this project though. They've definitely got some very talented people, and I hope that criticisms of live.com don't cause too much stress to the developers who've made it happen. I just find it interesting that even a multi-mega-billion dollar company can't get a launch to work seamlessly, even when the whole pitch is about working seamlessly.





    'http://' on Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:14:41 GMT, sez:

    http://feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=http://secretgeek.net/rss.asp



    'secretGeek' on Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:32:16 GMT, sez:

    Hiya anonymous person.

    The reason I blame live.com (rather than my own slightly dodgy rss) is because the feed would erratically show up sometimes in live.com -- and other times tell me there was something wrong.

    So in that case i blame live.com. It could be that my webhost is choking and not responding fast enough -- but i don't think that is the case (and anyway, live.com shoudl still be able to handle for that pretty well)



    'secretGeek.net' on Fri, 04 Nov 2005 03:35:14 GMT, sez:

    nope... even after slimming down my feed and removing any warnings that the validator gave me: there is still flaky behaviour from the live.com validator.

    i've seen it choke on a lot of other sites too...

    for a little while i got quite enthusiastic about live.com when i started fiddling with "gadgets" -- but no can't get many of these to work either. a number of usability issues with trying to load them too.




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